PCV vs Temodar in IDH1 mutated unmethylated astrocytoma

There must be a lot of people who have already dealt with this issue but I didn't see any discussions on it.

I'm 47 years old with a recurrent grade 2 Astrocytoma previously treated with surgeries. Just over 12 years ago it was also treated with radiation, but not with chemotherapy. It's IDH1 mutated, unmethylated and 1p/19q are intact. I'm deciding between radiation followed by PCV or radiation with Temodar and adjuvant Temodar.

The results of RTOG 9802 make PCV appear to be a reasonable option, but RTOG 0424  Temodar results are just as good. My doctor's say Temodar will be as effective as PCV and more tolerable. The advantages of PCV are: the RTOG 9802 survival plot for IDH1 mutations looks good, it's a multi-agent treatment, the methylation status isn't a factor, and there seems to be less risk of hypermutation.

Has anyone with similar tumor characteristics chosen PCV over Temodar, if so what influenced your decision and how did it work out?

Hi,

I'm updating this discussion for anyone in the future who might be interested.

I've had the 3 opinions below.

UCSF:

They didn't give me any new information about hypermutation. Results of trials will be released in 3 or 4 years.

They confirmed my diagnosis and recommended SOC with 6 cycles. They said there was no information more cycles or a different dose schedule provided any benefit. I wasn't eligible for the Everolimus or the other 2 trials for low-grade tumors.

UCLA:

This is where the recurrence was initially diagnosed.

They recommended SOC. With the following expected response rates for patients similar to me

50% without radiation.

75% response rate with radiation.

I didn't get a definition of response, but I think it means either shrinkage or cessation of growth.

Said there's no data to indicate the ketogenic diet helps, but it won't hurt

UCSD:

Confirmed diagnosis.

Said preliminary study results indicate Temodar works about as well as PCV.

10 or 15 % experience hypermutation.

12 cycles recommended.

Most tumors cease growing and about 15% of patients see a reduction in tumor size.

MGMT is less important in low-grade tumors than high-grade tumors.

IDH1 mutated tumors are more chemosensitive.

Treatment: I decided to go with proton radiation + Temodar. I can always change my mind after radiation if new information indicates switching chemo is best. I'm also taking various supplements and started the ketogenic diet.

I had my first proton and Temodar yesterday and woke up surprised by how much it affected me. Symptoms included: fatigue, headache, and I threw up after only 3 sips of coffee. An extra Ondanestron cleared up the nausea after about 1/2 hour.

Progress update

Hi Everyone,

Just wanted to post an update from my Dad and I since a fair bit has happened the past couple of months since he finished the 6 rounds of TMZ (in Jan this year). So in June (14 months post diagnosis) Dad’s MRI showed regrowth approx 40mm wide in a region deeper and close to the original GBM site. He had a 2nd resection at the end of July using 5-ALA and the surgeons have told us they managed to get 95% out, the last bit was attached to a blood supply so they didn't want to risk removing it. He is doing well and thankfully hasn't had any effects from the surgery other than being a bit tired. The team looking after him have recommended him going back on the TMZ as he seemed to do well while he was on it, which they will start at the end of this month providing his scar has healed well.

Since my last post we added Cimetidine and I have recently managed to get Dad to up the Chloroquine to half a table per day (but he is still worried about the potential seizure risk). I am working on him to take the full 250mg per day. I am concerned that since we have had regrowth the tumour that is still there is becoming resistant to our efforts both in terms of the TMZ and all the additional prescription/supplements we have been taking and wondering if we should be increasing/changing the cocktail. We welcome any thoughts on going back to TMZ and what more we can do. 

Thanks,

Sam

(Link to our previous posts)

Updated list of what Dad is taking (TMZ etc will be added from end of Aug):

Prescription by special request:

Celebrex (Pfizer 100mg capsule)    1x morning 

Chloroquine (Avloclor - Alliance Pharma 250mg tablet) 1/2 tablet every day in morning (available off prescription), GP recommended dosage as higher could cause fitting.Cholecalciferol 800IU (Fultium D3 - MA Hodder Internis, equiv. to 20 micrograms Vitamin D),  1x capsule in morning (available off prescription under other brands)Levetiracetam (Keppra 500mg tablet) 1x morning and 1x evening.

Additional Supplements:

Cannabinoids (CBD Brothers CBD Oil Blue Edition) 4x drops under tongue morning and evening

Mycelium Extract psp50 (ORIVeDA 350mg capsule) 3x morning and 3x evening

Fish Oil (Omega 3 - Solgar 950mg capsule) 1x morning and 1x evening

Berberine (Swanson 400mg capsule)     1x morning and 1x evening

Boswellia (Solgar 420mg capsule) 1x morning and 1x evening

Ashwagandha (Solgar 400mg capsule)   1x morning and 1x evening

Milk Thistle Fruits (Silamarie - Bio-Health 450mg capsule) 1x morning and 1x evening

Cruciferous Vegetable Extract (LifeExtension 400mg capsule )1x morning and 1x evening

Optimised Curcumin Extract (LONGVIDA RD 500mg capsule) 1x morning

Mega Green Tea Extract  (LifeExtension 725mg capsule)1x morning

Optimized Resveratrol (LifeExtension 250mg capsule) 1x morning

Zinc (Solgar 50mg tablet) 1x morning

Selenium (Solgar 200mcg tablet) 1x morning

Cimetidine 200mg tablet from Jan 2017 1x morning and 1x evening

Melotonin (Eurovital 10mg tablet) 2x evening

Cocktail for 11 year old child

Greeting All,

I am hoping someone here can give me some advice. My 11 year old son has recently been diagnosed with Glioblastoma. In 2013 he was diagnosed with a Medulloblastoma and just when we thought we were out of the woods this new tumour has popped up. His Oncologist believes it is caused by the previous radiotherapy he had for the original tumour.

He recently under went surgery, but unfortunately not all of the tumour was able to be removed. He is currently on oral chemo Temozolomide. This is all they have available for Gliomas from a chemo perspective here in New Zealand. After much research I have composed the following cocktail for him based on what I can access here.

What I really need to know is what daily dosages I should be giving him, given his age. I have found adult dosages for all on my list, but no luck for children. I would also appreciate any feedback on the list itself. The list is as follows:

Cannabis oil, high THC & CBD

Melatonin

Rhodia Rosea

Tumeric / Cucumin

Omega 3 - Fish Oil

D3 drops

Gamma linolenic acid (GLA)

Green tea extract (standardised to 50 %EGCG)

Bowellic acid

Salvestrols

Coriolus versicolor (Mushroom) - PSK

Coriolus versicolor (Mushroom) - PSP

Metaformin – diabetic medication

Atorvastin – cholesterol medication

Thanking you for your time.

Cheers

Brad

Astrocytoma Options technical difficulties

My other website, Astrocytoma Options, will be down for... several days? due to a viral infection.

DCVax-L presentation at ASCO 2017, June 5

The most recent public information on the phase 3 DCVax-L trial was given in the form of a presentation with slides by Dr. Marnix Bosch, chief technical officer of Northwest Biotherapeutics, during the recent ASCO conference in June. The presentation covers both DCVax-L and DCVax-Direct.

The DCVax-L (phase 3 trial) part of the talk is from approximately minute 6 to minute 25.  The most interesting part where new information is presented is from approximately minute 17 to 25.  The remainder of the presentation is devoted to DCVax-Direct.

Watch the video here:
https://www.nwbio.com/dcvax-novel-personalized-immune-therapies-solid-tumors/

Here are some slides from the talk:

We can assume based on this presentation that the threshold for the overall survival analysis to begin has now been reached and is likely underway.  He mentioned that a publication of the preliminary data is in preparation.

The only survival data publicized so far is for the patients who were excluded from the trial due to early progression and were given DCVax on a Compassionate Use protocol, aka the "informational arm".  In the "indeterminate" subgroup of 25 patients within this informational arm who had early evidence of progression followed by a period of stability, 40% have made it to nearly 3 years or more, and 24% have made it to 4 years.

24% surviving at 4 years compares very favorably with the control arm (receiving standard of care) of the recent phase 3 Optune trial, which had 10% surviving at 4 years, and the study arm (standard of care + Optune) of that trial had 4 year survival rate of 17%. 

It would be reasonable to expect survival outcomes in the phase 3 trial to be better than those from the indeterminate group of the "informational arm" given that the latter group was excluded from the trial for at least some form of evidence of early progression, while patients included in the trial had no evidence of progression.

The next step to improve outcomes further is now being taken by UCLA, where a phase 2 trial is slated to open soon combining DCVax-L with nivolumab (anti PD-1), although this trial is for recurrent, rather than newly diagnosed GBM.
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT03014804

Primer on CAR T-cell therapy for GBM

This is a useful overview of CAR (chimeric antigen receptor) T-cell therapy and its application to GBM published a few days ago at CancerCommons, written by their chief scientist.

Reengineering Immune System Cells to Fight Glioblastoma (click on link)

BGB-290 (brain penentrant PARP inhibitor) trial now open in USA

Formerly this drug was only available in 2 Australian clinical trials.  A trial has now opened in the USA (Arizona, Colorado, Tennessee, not yet open in Oklahoma) for newly diagnosed GBM with unmethylated MGMT, or for recurrent GBM (methylated/unmethylated MGMT), combined with standard treatments (temozolomide + BGB-290 in the recurrent group).

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT03150862

Past post that mentioned BGB-290 and PARP inhibitors.
http://btcocktails.blogspot.com/2017/07/parp-combination-therapy.html

Oligo 2 plan for surgery

Hi all,

I met with Ennio Chiocca at Brigham and Women's/Dana Farber earlier this week. He will do my surgery to remove the presumed Oligo 2 from my left frontal lobe. It will be awake surgery. Currently we are planning to do the surgery around mid-November to allow me to nurse our newborn until he is at least 6 months (I'll try to continue after the surgery but this way he'll at least get a solid 6 months of nursing for sure).

I like Dr. Chiocca's nature and the positive things he had to say about my prognosis. Has anyone worked with him? What he said that stood out is that there is a good chance this tumor won't come back. I questioned him in that, since no one else has said such a thing. He said technically this tumor was only discovered in 2008 (IDH and co-deleted), and so we can't say for sure how they function and it could be that they don't always come back. He said there's an 80%  chance it will not be back in 10 years. Thoughts on that?

Like others, though, he was not able to address the other symptoms I'm experiencing (sense that my left eye is bulging slightly, blurry spot in my left vision, drop in BP since the seizure, etc.)

Can someone talk about how they measure these things? UVM measures it as 2.9APx31.5transverse x 1.7 craniocaudal. BW has it at 3.3AP, I'm told that's a trivial difference. It didn't grow during pregnancy (at least not after it was discovered), so that seems positive.

Additionally, at my last check up with my local NO he mentioned a second spot. It is a white matter lesion 3mm, nonspecific. Everyone has told me not to worry about this but it seems worrisome to me!

Thanks for any input.

Maria

Angiotensin system inhibitors + low dose Avastin

This June a study was published by Victor Levin et al. of Kaiser Permanente Hospital, Redwood City, which follows up on a previous study on the use of Avastin doses lower than the standard dose.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28631191  (I've uploaded the full study to the Brain Tumor Library -> Folder 1. Therapies - Human Studies -> Angiotensin System Inhibitors)

The current study looked at the use of angiotensin system inhibitors, including both ACE inhibitors (benzapril, captopril, etc.) and angiotensin II receptor blockers (losartan, telmisartan, etc.) used for hypertension simultaneously with chemotherapy and/or Avastin in newly diagnosed and recurrent glioma patients.

In a very large cohort of 1186 infiltrative glioma cases (grades 2-4), use of an angiotensin system inhibitor (ASI) was significantly associated with better survival (hazard ratio 0.82), in a multivariate analysis adjusted for other variables such as age, extent of resection, GBM versus other grade, use of Avastin, etc.  This advantage of ASI treatment was even more significant in patients who were also treated with Avastin (HR 0.75).

A previously published cohort of 181 recurrent GBM patients treated with various doses of Avastin was examined with regard to their use of ASI drugs (for hypertension).  The previous study had shown trend toward longer survival in the group treated with lower-dose Avastin, and this study has been summarized elsewhere.
http://virtualtrials.com/pdf2016/benwilliamsTreatmentOptionsUpdate2016.pdf   (Page 90)

Remarkably, of the 89 patients treated with doses of Avastin lower than 3.6 mg/kg/week (the standard dose amounts to 5 mg/kg/week),  the 47 patients also using an ASI drug had a very impressive median survival of 99 weeks (22.8 months) versus 55.6 months (12.8 months) for the 42 patients receiving low dose Avastin without ASI drugs.

99 week (nearly 23 month) median survival (from treatment for recurrence) for a sizeable (n=47) group of recurrent glioblastoma patients in virtually unheard of.  Although all the usual caveats apply because of the retrospective, non-randomized nature of this study,  the outcomes are too impressive to ignore.

As Levin et al. conclude "Prospective clinical trials combining ASIs with low-dose BEV in GBM patients are now needed to confirm whether ASIs can enhance the efficacy of VEGF-targeted therapies and thereby improve clinical outcome."

As a side note, Victor Levin is the founder of the Society for Neuro-Oncology (SNO) and often described as the "father of neuro-oncology", at least in America.

Omaya

Does anyone know which centers in the US do Omaya reservoir (to get chemo to the spine)? Thanks!

VXM01 (VEGFR-2 DNA Vaccine) trial ?

Hello all,

I found this trial in Europe (Heidelberg Germany):
https://clinicaltrials.gov/show/NCT02718443
http://abstracts.asco.org/199/AbstView_199_191829.html 

What's your opinion, does it seem something that could work on recurrent AA3  (IDH1 mutated, MGMT methylated) (ASCO abstract goes beyond my understanding... :)

Or would it be better to go with PARP + TMZ combo?

br,
Juha

Levi's cocktail

Stephen, and dear blog visitors, I'd also be grateful if you could review my husband's not so extensive cocktail. Should I increase the dosages or should I add something to the list in your opinion? 

I'm so desperate to help him defeat this nasty disease. I know that I'm too hesitant and that we don't have time for that. My husband was shocked about his diagnose so he don't want to read about the possible treatments and drugs so everything is on my shoulders. I totally understand his attitude although it would be such a great help if he would be proactive because he is the smartest person I've ever met. His NO is a very good professional but absolutely not on board, just SOC. We don't even have the courage to ask for his opinion.

Unfortunately we started the majority of these drugs only after radiochemotherapy (except of Metformin and alfacalcidol). We added Aciclovir and CQ on the last week of the radiation therapy. Fluoxetin and DCA right after the last day of RT. Celebrex only 2 weeks ago.

He weighs 70 kg (ca. 154 pounds) if it matters.

Official:

Medrol 16 mg (chorticosteroid - in Hungary we don't have Decadron) This is one tablet only and I'd like to reduce it by half because we have Celebrex but my husband is hesitant because we only have appointment to the NO on 21/8. He has no symptoms other than extreme fatigue and metallic taste in his mouth.

Prescription drugs:

- Metformin - we recently increased it from 850 mg to 1275 mg (This is 1.5 tablet)

- Chloroquine 250 mg

- Fluoxetin 20 mg (Should we increase it to 40 mg? He is quite depressed even after more than a month on it so it just would be a bonus if his mood would be better.)

- Celebrex 200 mg x 2

- DCA 500 mg x 2 on a 2 week on 1 week off basis. We'd like to increase it to 500 mg x 3 as soon as he finishes his first TMZ cycle. Up until now he has not experienced neuropathy although he takes 1 pill of Milgamma Neuro every other day which contains 40 mg of benfothiamin, 90 mg B6 and 0,25 mg B12. We use the product of DCA Lab.

- alfacalcidol 2,5 mcg

Around chemo days:

- Aciclovir 400 mg x 2 (I'm just guessing what would be the right dosage and maybe he should take it daily, not only around TMZ days.)

- Omeprazole 40 mg x 2

His Canadian friend will bring him cimetidine within a few weeks. I'd like him to take 1000 mg a day.

I've just read about clomipramine here but I suppose that you can't use clomipramine and fluoxetin together. Which one has more benefit in your opinion? Mouse evidence on one hand and lots of anecdotal success stories on the other hand.

My husband never had a seizure so I'm hesitant to give him Keppra although its chemosensitizing properties are very tempting.

I have propranolol and I'm thinking to start my husband on it after the first MRI but I'm afraid to mess with his blood pressure. Based on the etodolac + propranolol trial I hope it can be effective with the standard 5/23 protocol, too. I'm assuming that Celebrex can be an appropriate alternative to etodolac.

Although we have a good relationship with our GP who is helpful enough to prescribe for us the above mentioned drugs, I think that she would be reluctant to prescribe tamoxifen, disulfiram, minocycline or maybe even mebendazole on the long term. What do you think of such providers like Alldaychemist? Is it risky to buy from them? Any personal experience?They even have Valcyte which I haven't been able to convince anybody to prescribe since my husband is seronegative for CMV. He had it once but now he has no active CMV infection.

Non-prescription:

- Genistein  (Soy Isoflavones) 28 mg x 2 (We are not so convinced about it and my husband hates it so I think I'm not going to buy it again.) 

- Silibinin 86,5 mg x 6

- melatonin 20 mg

- ca. 1 dl / 3 oz (?) frozen breast milk except of TMZ days (I know, I know...but it was easy to get it through a reliable relative.)

- propolis (30 drops)

- 1 liter green tea on TMZ days with Omega 3 and 200 mg ascorbic acid 

- 1 teaspoon of home-made ethanolic rosehip tincture daily (except of TMZ days) because of this study http://www.scirp.org/jouRNAl/PaperInformation.aspx?PaperID=23446 

I know Stephen what you think about in vitro results but it's so easy to make and it can't do harm.

During RT he ate tons of lycopene-rich tomato juices and home made rosehip puree and steamed broccoli and broccoli sprouts because of sulforaphane. The latter now he hates so he'll start soon on broccoli sprout capsules. I also give him fresh pomegranate juice almost every day.

As you can see we are not so eager about supplements, they seem a bit unproven for us but I recently ordered Longvida curcumin (although its poor bioavailability), liquid Maitake D fraction, Selenium and CQ10. 

Is CQ10 and Selenium applicable in between TMZ cycles despite their strong antioxidant properties? 

Also, we tried a popular Hungarian medicinal mushroom complex (8 pills contain 150 mg rezveratrol, 336 mg shiitake, 336 mg ganoderma, 336 mg maitake, 336 mg almond mushroom) but he had severe diarrhea even on 2 pills a day so I'm not so confident to order him the Mushroom Science PSK product that everyone uses. I didn't see anybody encountering this problem on any cancer forum. It would be a pity to miss it.

I bought some edible oregano essential oil because of these articles but we don't know how to administer it. First, he tried to dissolve 5 drops under his tongue but it has awful taste. Later he tried to drink 5 drops with water. It's also a very strong antioxidant so maybe it's not so smart decision to use it when he is on DCA. or in between chemo cycles. 

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/oregano-compound-activates-oocytes-kills-glioblastoma-finley

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25965832

We'd like to obtain 1:1 THC-CBD oil, too. Could you please provide me with some reliable resources? A lot of people seem to take it but I don't know where to buy it.

Big thank you to Stephen and this helpful community.

GBM treatment options with a moderate budget

My 29 years old husband was diagnosed on 3/26 with a multifocal, thalamic GBM. We are from Hungary. He has undergone surgery on the 5th of April. 80% of the walnut-sized tumor was resected from his thalamus. His other, frontomediobasal tumor seems to be inactive (although it's pretty big, too) so the surgeon didn't resect it and it didn't received radiation either. He has completed SOC and currently is on his first cycle of 5/23 TMZ monotherapy. He has no EGFR amplification. His tumor is IDH negative and indeed very aggressive. Only 3 weeks after surgery he was hospitalized because of edema which was caused by tumor regrowth. So now he has quite a few smaller tumors around his thalamus besides the remaining 20% piece. 

His first post-radiation MR is scheduled for the middle of August. Since I've not yet received the information regarding his MGMT methylation status (long story) I'm constantly worrying and seeking for opportunities in case of tumor progression since in my country there's no protocol for recurrent glioblastoma other than Avastin. I mean no PCV or other chemos, no immunotherapy, no clinical trials, no Optune device (I requested an offer from Germany and it turns out that it costs 30 000 € /months and you need a technical and medical support at home).

I'm aware that we need to manage our finances cleverly in this situation. If you had up to 20,000-30,000 USD which option or options would you go for?

- Immunotherapy in Germany (It seems to me that only Nesselhut Clinic fits into our budget but reviews are not so convincing as nothing in the world of GBM.) 

- Keytruda / Opdivo immunotherapy + TMZ 

In Hungary it's not part of the protocol but hopefully we can find a doctor who will prescribe it at our own expense. As I can see Opdivo has kind of failed; is Keytruda. better? Do we need PD-L1 testing to get it?

- We have gamma knife in Hungary and it can be paid through National Insurance (so patients who qualify don't need to pay for it) but doctors are reluctant to let GBM patients to choose this option. It's usually used for small and simple tumors and for brain metastases. If our NO will advise against it or will be not so eager to help maybe I can search for other European gamma knife possibilities although I can't find too many comments on gamma knife and GBM.

- Neuroblate Laser Ablation. As far as I know it's exactly for problematic tumors, like thalamic ones. I'm planning to send them an inquiry but I have concerns about whether it is an adequate alternative to surgery for inoperable tumors. Can it prolong life or is it just a palliative treatment? How much would be the estimated cost? Has anybody personal experiences with it? Is laser ablation superior to gamma knife? 

Our NO said my husband's thalamic tumor is no accessible for surgery anymore and considering his bad reaction to the first surgery maybe laser ablation or gamma knife wouldn't be the best option for him. What are your thoughts on it? 

- SPMF treatment in India. It's quite cheap but no statistics are available and it's so hard to believe for me that the same effect is achievable with 1-2 hours of treatment for 28 days as with the Optune cap which you need to wear almost all day long up until it works. I've read about a young patient with thalamic tumor on Inspire who had Optune and it didn't do any good for him because of the location. I suppose that the same applies for SPMF, too. 

- I sent an inquiry to Duke's polio virus trial.

My clinical trial applications have been ignored from all over the world so I was tricky enough to mention that "I'm aware that non-U.S. citizens should cover their costs on their own in case of qualifying for a clinical trial and I hope I can manage it with the help of my family. "

I got this answer from doctor Friedman personally "We would not have a trial for you at this time since the surgery was so long ago and the tumor is not growing If it ever does regrow please let us know"

Maybe it was just a polite "no" or maybe this possibility is truly open for us in case of a recurrence but the truth is that I have no idea how much a treatment like this could cost in one of the world's best institutions for cancer. Anybody has any idea about their fees?

- Ask the Brazilian doctor to come to Hungary and teach us to administer Perillyl Alcohol. I've read that the brave persons who tried to make it themselves found it unbearable to use.

Any and all help is very much appreciated. Thank you in advance and sorry for my grammar mistakes.

PARP combination therapy

Hello all,

I came across this article:

PARP inhibitor combination therapy

"Here, we summarise both the pre-clinical and clinical evidence for the utility of such combinations and discuss the future prospects and challenges for PARP inhibitor combinatorial therapies."
http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.critrevonc.2016.10.010

Does someone have experience regarding PARP combination therapy? I know this has been discussed before in other posts especially when a tumour is IDH1-mutated. In the article they also propose that MGMT methylation is positive factor for PARP therapy.

It would be interesting to see results from trials or hear personal experiences on PARP therapy.

All the best,
Juha

Kudos and Hindsight's 20/20 Thoughts

I lost my dear husband after 32 years of marriage to a GBM that his colleagues at MD Anderson recognized as so genetically virulent, they did not give him more than a few months, at most, after diagnosis.  I will never forget sitting in a room, surrounded by the large group of oncologists who were his close friends, waiting on the results and then seeing them cry as his case was discussed.

Against their wishes, we started him on a course of supplements to accompany the chemo and radiation.  It included pycnogenol, cannabis oil, curcumin, Leukozepin, Vit. D, turkey tail mushrooms, boswellia, artemisinin, and more, plus organic smoothies.  He had 2-3 acupuncture treatments per week.  It caused an uproar.  He was a traitor to modern science.  Every consult was a battle.  Didn't we realize that free radicals were our FRIENDS?? And we would answer back our retort, and they would argue back theirs.  It was awful...the whole experience was a nightmare because he dared to think outside the box and at MD Anderson's Dept. of Neuro-oncology, that is a sin.  There were times the pressure was so great, he actually stopped the supplements for awhile, or stopped some of them.  And did it help?  No.  The tumor took advantage of the "rest" it got and grew even faster.  So he'd go back on them, having lost ground.

He was even ok'd for a clinical trial as n-of-1, with the supplements having been ok'd by the principal investigator, but the head of the NO department said that no one would go on any trial in his department as long as the patient took supplements, not even a pre-approved n-of-1.  The fact that my husband had been a researcher "in the family" for 30 years, who had done his due diligence, and made the decision to go forward, meant nothing.  And as the department head made this proclamation, he smiled a Mona Lisa smile that said, "It doesn't matter, you know, you are going to die before long anyway."

It is something I will never forgive.

My husband lived almost a year after his diagnosis, to the surprise of all who knew his profile.  And in the last few months, I have relived every decision we made along the way.  May I share my hindsight with you?  Who knows, it might help someone.

1.  First of all, kudos to Stephen and the rest of you, for asking so many questions and thinking of novels ways to attack this monster.  If the NOs won't think outside the box for all of the insurance/funding/politics/training/messy-science/too-many-variables reasons, then we are on our own.  Keep it up.  This is a glioblastoma...time for a new paradigm, folks.

2.  If we had to do it all over again, he'd have gone through the resection, but not the radiation.  The only thing the radiation did was to make the beast bigger.  Yes, it was floppy and full of holes.  But it was MGMT-promoter gene unmethylated.  That radiation + Temodar just kicked it in the shins a little.  When that -blastoma beast regained its strength and got back to the business of evolving, it handily filled in those holes and started to grow again with newer, more efficient angiogenic pathways, but now starting from the larger border!  And with each new chemo agent, it created another new angiogenic pathway that was even better than the one before.  In what universe is this a good idea?

3.  We would have started him on all of his supplements, immediately after the resection, especially cannabis.  You can get it, you just have to try.  Go to the Facebook GBM cannabis blog and put it out there...hey!  I'm in an illegal state!  Help me, please??? and you will be helped.  But get someone to tell you how to dose it.  We were conservative Repubs at the time and didn't know the first thing about CO.  We finally consulted, via FaceTime, with Eloise at Green Health Consultants and she did her best but it was too little too late.

4.  Start on Optune when the tumor is small, not when it is really big like we did.  In Houston, you will have to go to Methodist Hospital to do this.  Husband's new NO, Dr. Ivo Tremont-Lukats, was trained at MD Anderson and is willing to let you use whatever supplements you want.  He's a gem.

5.  Because Husband's tumor's MGMT-promoter gene was unmethylated, we would have gotten him on disulfiram asap, to take along with the Temodar.  I did get some on the black market about mid-way through but it arrived two years out of date.  Dr. Tremont was willing to let my husband have a Hail-Mary trial of it toward the end, but by then the tumor had covered most of his brain and was creeping down his spine.  Like I said, it was especially virulent.  Had his NO at MD Anderson been willing to write a legitimate RX for it after the resection, when that puppy was the size of a peanut, I really think my husband might've had a chance to stop, or at least slow down, its regrowth.  And every time he took Temodar after that, he would have needed to take the disulfiram at the same time.  That, along with the carpet bomb effect of the supplements and Optune, would have given him better odds than what we were dealt at MD Anderson, I'm convinced.

That's it.  That's all I have to offer.  My rage at the medical establishment is something I will be working on for a long time.  I have a couple wonderful of "forgiveness" counselors who are helping me with this via phone sessions and I am slowly getting better, I think.

Best of luck to you and may our Lord bless you and keep you in His hands.

Simvastatin positive evidence in an orthotopic GBM model

The study is called MYC-regulated Mevalonate Metabolism Maintains Brain Tumor Initiating Cells

This study constitutes in my view the first solid evidence that statins could be useful in GBM therapy. In accordance with my research, simvastatin was the statin selected which has better blood-brain barrier abilities versus some other statins, for example atorvastatin (see figure below).  The drug in this study was injected intraperitoneally rather than given orally as would be the case in humans, but at least they used a brain-implanted (not subcutaneous flank-injected) model with relatively recently created GBM cell lines (rather than the ancient U87).

Figure above from the study Statins as Neuroprotectants: A Comparative In Vitro Study of Lipophilicity, Blood-Brain-Barrier Penetration, Lowering of Brain Cholesterol, and Decrease of Neuron Cell Death by Sierra et al. Journal of Alzheimer’s Disease 23 (2011) 307–318.

ONC 201 or Avastin?

Stephen and all,
We are trying to decide between treating our son (recurrent glioma, H3 K27 mutant, mutations in ASXL 1 and PIK3CA among others) with Avastin +Irotican  or the new ONC201 trial. We tend to think that ONC201 is a better option. What do you think? Thanks!

posts on DCA from the old cancer compass thread

I found some of the discussions on the old cocktails thread at cancer compass concerning DCA useful, including the two below.

April 19, 2015:

I talked with three different suppliers and one Canadian pharmacy about purchasing DCA. One company was rude, would not address my questions, and worse. Very evasive in who they were and quality issues. My selection came down to two providers and ultimately I went with pharma-dca. I chose this company because they claim their DCA is manufactured in the UK, not china like almost all other DCA. They addressed my questions respectfully and I liked one of the responses I received from them (see below). Additionally I was looking for someone else that had sourced their DCA through pharma-dca and found that Cheryl Broyles does.

Caveat emptor seems like a very important precaution here. I have not had their DCA independently tested. Therefore it could be excellent quality, it could be adulterated or not DCA at all. I am in no way suggesting their product is not what they claim, I am simply saying I have not had it tested. In my conversations with others using DCA, some source their product through pharma-dca as well and have no complaints. By the way, the other source I was inclined to trust was Certified DCA, but they were asking quite a bit more for their DCA. Below is pharma DCA’s response. If you are interested in certifiedDCA’s response to me let me know and I will post it.

Here is pharma-DCA’s response to me. 

 Hello Michael

Thanks for the response; Pharma-dca.com is part of the AWP group of internet companies.

We do however agree that the vast amount of Sodium Dichloroacetate for sale originates in China.

We have been concerned regarding this issue but as you will appreciate have no control over the purchasing by individuals who unfortunately have not the knowledge or realization of product source.

 AWP  for many years has had its own in-house fully equipped laboratory and routinely sample every batch of product produced.

 All our Sodium Dichloroacetate is produced within the UK to exacting standards; a typical analysis would be as follows:

All product is batch produced  and the batch number displayed on the product label for maximum quality control.

An inductively Coupled Plasma Mass Spectrometer offers the initial indication of the product quality, we have available if required a Perkins FTIR Spectrometer, a Hewlett Packard Gas Chromatograph plus other equipment.  Finally a sample of the finished product receives a quantitive analysis by titration.

 Only product that meets our strict guidelines is sent for packaging etc.

 Finally if you look at our website you will observe that we also produce potassium dichloroacetate, we have not seen this anywhere else including China.

 We welcome anyone to have our product analyzed on their own behalf

May 16, 2015

Some feel placing DCA in a freezer is important, most seem to feel just refrigeration is fine.  It is claimed the freezer keeps DCA fresher for much longer, but from a practical point of view, you will go through a 100 g bottle rapidly enough that it does not matter.  We keep it in the refrigerator.  We do not worry about with or between meals.  Benfotiamine is taken in the morning around the time DCA is taken.  Might be taken at the same time or at a different time, same with thiamine at night. 

My father's GBM

 My father was diagnosed with GBM on 4/15 and he had a total resection surgery on 4/17.  I've been researching pretty much non-stop every since.  I watched the surviving terminal cancer movie, read Ben Williams book, have been scouring the internet gathering as much information as possible and this is how I ended up here.  

Here's all the information I have on my fathers tumor and the treatment and supplements he is on to date:

Genetic testing: MGMT was not detected (negative) unmethylated

IDH1 and IDH2 were not detected (negative) as well

It is EGFR amplified - which qualified him for ABT-414 clinical trial.

He is currently in the trial and has some symptoms which lead us to believe he is getting the actual drug and not the placebo.  

He finished up the standard treatment of Radiation and Chemotherapy a few weeks ago.

He is taking Keppra and a PPI daily

List of supplements: Cannabis oil, 20 mg melatonin, 800 mg curcubrain, reishi and coriolus mushroom supplement, 500 mg Boswellia extract, 400 mg green tea extract, 200 mg resveratrol, 200 mcg selenium, 10000 IU vitamin D3, Hemp seed and flax seed oil.

Also drinking fruit and veggie smoothies daily.

These are the off label drugs that I recently received and plan on having him start in a couple days.

Disulfiram-125 mg a day for the first week, then 250 mg daily

Chloroquine- 250 mg daily

Celebrex- 200 mg twice daily

Metformin- 500 mg once daily, titrating up to twice daily, then 3 times daily

Doxycycline 100 mg twice daily

Propranolol 60-80mg daily

Lipitor

DCA 5mg/kg per day, titrating up to 12-15mg/kg.

LDN (low dose naltrexone) start with 2mg nightly titrating up to 4.5mg

I have a few questions:

1.How does the dosing and schedule of the off label drugs look? Anything I should add or subtract? 

2. I know Disulfiram and DCA can cause neuropathy, should they not be taken together?

3. Should the green tea extract pills be avoided while on DCA?

4. The doxycycline I have is Dox T-SL (Doxycycline 100 mg / Lactic Acid 5 billion spores)  

It says "DOXT-SL contains Doxycycline along with 5 billion spores of lactobacillus sporogenes."

Would the lactic acid cause a problem?

5. Most of the research I've done says statins are beneficial, but I've also an article saying they should be avoided.  Should they be used or avoided? 

If he does take the Celebrex, any recommendations on dose?

6. The Naltrexone pills I have are 50 mg.  I've seen people dissolve them in 50mg of water and then use a syringe to suck up desired amount in mg.  Is this advisable?  Some people say this will cause inconsistent doses, but I don't know another way.

7. I've read that since his GBM is unmethylated and EGFR amplified that a metronomic chemo scheduling would be more beneficial than standard chemo treatment.  We meet with my fathers oncologist next week to take a scan and discuss the future game plan.  Does anyone have any recommendations on how to try and convince his dr. to prescribe the metronomic dosing schedule.

Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  Like I said, I've been doing a ton of research and sometimes it seems like the more I do, the more confused I get.  

help with Dex effects

my husband had a second recurrence at the end of May.  Further surgery is not an option (he had awake craniotomy with Gliolan in February for first recurrence, so we were very disappointed that it came back so quickly).  He has been on 16mg per day of dexamethasone since May 30.  We are trying to make the most of every day but the fatigue is extreme and he has weakness and visible muscle wastage in his arms and legs. Does anyone have any tips please on how to counteract the fatigue? He is 47, first diagnosed August 2015.

Any help much appreciated.

Updated statistics from Duke's modified poliovirus trial for recurrent GBM

• As of 2/01/2017, 52 pts were treated on study (1 each at DL1 and DL3, 7 at DL2, 2 at DL4, 4 at DL5, 24 at DL-1 and 13 at DL-2)

• 20.8% of pts remain alive at 36-month post PVSRIPO infusion, compared to 4% of an historical control.

• Four pts remain alive more than 22 months post treatment without having received any additional intervention following PVSRIPO at 57.5+, 56.4+, 27.9+ and 23.2+ months.

An important thing to keep in mind is that the patients in this phase 1 trial were treated with various doses of the virus.  We can expect future trials that move forward with the approximately optimal dose to have better overall results than this trial.  The first patient in this trial is now 5 years in remission.

http://abstracts.asco.org/199/AbstView_199_192524.html

Sativex (THC + CBD) plus temozolomide for recurrent GBM

This was mentioned in the comments a while back (February), but I feel these findings are significant enough to have their own post.

The original press release by GW pharmaceuticals came out on February 7.

The data was also published for the 2017 ASCO conference (click here).

"Median survival in the placebo group was 369 days, and > 550 days in the CBD:THC treatment group (NS) and 1 year survival was 83% and 56% in the CBD:THC and placebo groups, respectively (p = 0.042). "  

Even with the small numbers of patients (12 patients in the Sativex + TMZ group, 9 patients in the placebo + TMZ group), the difference in survival at one year still managed to achieve statistical significance.

Sativex (nabiximols) is available in Canada and Europe. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nabiximols

Complete responses to Toca 511 for IDH1 mutant gliomas

This was an abstract from this year's ASCO conference.

Durable complete responses observed in IDH1 mutated high grade glioma at first recurrence undergoing treatment with Toca 511 and Toca FC  (click here for the abstract)

"All 4 IDH1 mt patients treated at 1st recurrence had CRs [complete responses]"  !

Is SWI part of standard MRI imaging?

I recently read that SWI can reliably determine regrowth from pseudo-recurrence. If this is the case why are there so many concerns about pseudo-recurrence? Is SWI not used standardly? Does it have pitfalls? Does it require use of contrast agent? (I haven't had MRI with contrast yet, due to pregnancy, so I'm wondering about "establishing a baseline" from which to measure my tumour going forward.)

IDH1-inhibitor drugs?

Hello all,

I've not fully understood how mIDH1-inhibitors work? I know they reduce 2-HG levels but does that lead to tumour regression, or is there some other mechanism simultaneously?

I've been looking into different mIDH1-inhibitor trials, but have doubts if they work as monotherapy?

Br,
Juha

Getting Second Opinion - Planning for recurrence

Hi all,

My Dad was diagnosed in Nov. 2016 with GBM (MGMT methylated, Positive for 1p Deletion, NOT IDH1/2).

He has completed standard chemo-radiation and is about to start his 6th cycle of monthly TMZ. We have had (2) Avastin infusions so far (hoping to keep this as minimal as possible) to help us wean off decadron, now down to 1mg per day.

As of our last MRI my Dad is considered "Progression Free - Post Avastin".

We are seeing Dr. Butowski at UCSF. He is very intelligent and has been willing to discuss our cocktail decisions. He simply states what is safe, his belief of what works and what does not based on research, and then let's us make our decision.

We do not want to switch NO's, but so far in this journey he has not been interested in any clinical trials (for my Dad) happening anywhere on the West Coast. He feels we stick with TMZ and sporadic Avastin infusions until (statistically likely) a recurrence appears. At that point we make a plan based on what is found...

I don't feel comfortable with this plan, I want to stay ahead of this. I want to start reaching out to various clinical trials of any phase and see what makes the most sense. Dr. Butowski leads much of the research at UCSF and has seen many trials do nothing and/or have very negative side effects on patients so he is more cautious than other NOs. I know this is something to be thankful for, but also very frustrating.

I would like to setup a consultation with another NO from a leading brain tumor center anywhere in the world to sit with and run through our situation for as long as I can get. I would love if members from around the world could list NO's they admire and respect.

Might actually be worth developing a shared Google Sheets for Stephen W Library listing all NO's with forum members ratings/opinions.

Any advice is appreciated.

Thank you and never give up

Ari

Oakland, California

Avastin Fatigue sideffects

Hello, my husband's last MRI following his 2nd round of adjuvant TMZ showed his right temporal lobe gbm increased in size by 50% as well as a new tumor on left side on anterior horn of left lateral ventricle. Our NO recommended Avastin
only at 1/2 dose, so we had first infusion on June 5th then another on June 19th.  My husband has declined significantly mentally and physically since then. He is sleeping 20-22 hrs a day, and today his legs seemed to give out on him and it took my son and I several hours to get him back into bed bc of confusion he wouldn't trust us or let us help him. It was heartbreaking. Our NO is saying it will take 2 more treatments to see if it is working....does this sound right?  He is suppose to get 3rd infusion tomorrow, but I don't even know if I will physically be able to get him there, so that may be answer in itself. I just want to know I did all I could. Do you all think if he was going to respond he would've done so by now or shown some improvement? Thank you for your help.

Boswellia Serrata During Standard of Care

Any thoughts about using 4200 mg of Boswellia Serrata during SOC?   Received conflicting messages from oncology pharmacists regarding interference with TMZ.  Any information or experience would be appreciated.

Thank you.

Randomized trial comparing 6 to 12 cycles of TMZ

Many studies have compared 6 cycles of monthly temzolomide to extended temozolomide for newly diagnosed GBM.  However, all of those studies have been retrospective in nature (they were not designed as prospective clinical trials randomizing patients to either 6 or 12 months of monthly TMZ).

A small (20 patients in each arm), but randomized trial was published recently by an Indian group.  The result was a 4 month increase in median progression-free survival in the 12 month arm, and a >8 month increase in median overall survival (15.4 months versus 23.8 months), measured from diagnosis.  

Patients in this trial were between the ages of 18 and 65, with KPS equal to or over 70. Unfortunately, there was no information (and consequently no stratification by) MGMT status, which limits the significance of the study, as the authors readily admit. "One limitation of our study is the small sample size of patients and lack of information on MGMT methylation status of patients."  However, this is the first randomized trial for newly diagnosed GBM comparing 6 cycles to 12 cycles of monthly temozolomide treatment.

Download PDF by clicking here

GBM Caregiver Survey

Wanted to share this article for those who may have missed:

http://www.oncnursingnews.com/web-exclusives/when-gbm-family-caregivers-feel-competent-and-supported-loved-ones-survival-is-better

Where to donate in support of GBM research?

Anyone have suggestions on best organizations to donate to?  The desire is to help fund glioblastoma research that might lead to better treatments.

These are my ideas so far: 


Defeat GBM:  National Brain Tumor Society
National Brain Tumor Society general
American Brain Tumor Association research
Local research hospitals (Stanford, UCSF)

Expanded Access to VAL-083

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT03138629

"This is an expanded access program (EAP) for eligible participants. This program is designed to provide access to VAL-083 (dianhydrogalactitol) prior to approval by the local regulatory agency. Availability will depend on territory eligibility. Participating sites will be added as they apply for and are approved for the EAP. A medical doctor must decide whether the potential benefit outweighs the risk of receiving an investigational therapy based on the individual patient's medical history and program eligibility criteria."

There is also an upcoming phase 3 clinical trial that will test VAL-083 for recurrent GBM that failed Avastin.

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT03149575

PVS-RIPO with/without Lomustine

Hey all,

My wife is about 3 months shy of 3 years since diagnosis/surgery.  So far, she has not had a recurrence (we attribute that to this amazing community and a spectacular NO - although I'm sure tumor genetics is also driving that).  Yesterday, however, she had her 3-month scan and a new area of enhancement is showing.  Our NO is floating the possibility that this could be effects of radiation, but we have to go back in a month for another MRI to find out for sure.

That said, I am evaluating all of the clinical trials for recurrence in case we need to act quickly.  The first one I looked into is the PVS-RIPO (poliovirus) trial at Duke.  The Phase I trial closed (yesterday actually - it says June 27, 2017).  But it seems a new trial is now open - a Phase II trial that is randomized.  Every patient receives PVS-RIPO, but half of the patients also receive one single dose of Lomustine 8 weeks after the injection.

Does anybody know anything about this trial, or have any reasoning behind the addition of Lomustine?  I'm thrilled to see that this trial essentially overlaps with the Phase I trial, but I've never heard mention of adding a single dose of Lomustine.

Thank you all, and best wishes to everybody.

Kendall

panobinostat

Does anyone have any experience with getting panobinostat prescribed by a US doctor? Are there any recent studies that might be available to convince our NO to get it for my son? Thanks!

Tempus Genetic Testing

Does anyone have experience with Tempus Genetic Testing? It is relatively new out of Chicago and I am told that it is more comprehensive and actionable than Foundation One as well as less expensive. Thanks.
Dianne

Mebendazole dosage

Does anyone know where I can find the dosage information on Phase I trial for mebendazole? Thanks!

Peryll alcohol

Dear all,
I remember reading on this blog about a Brazilian doctor who can come and administer perryll alcohol, but I cant find the contact number anywhere. Can anyone help? Thanks!

A new cocktail hypothesis

Blocking epithelial-to-mesenchymal transition in glioblastoma with a sextet of repurposed drugs: the EIS regimen. link to the study here

This is a sibling of CUSP9, as it has the same parents (Richard Kast, Marc-Eric Halatsch and company)

Latest study on NAMPT inhibitors for IDH1 mutant glioma (preclinical)

The alkylating chemotherapeutic temozolomide induces metabolic stress in IDH1-mutant cancers and potentiates NAD+ depletion-mediated cytotoxicity

click here for link to the article

Unfortunately no NAMPT inhibitors have been approved for clinical use, although one is currently in trial.

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT02702492

Gleolan (5-ALA fluorescence guided resection) approved by the FDA

It's about time this was approved in the US.

https://www.fda.gov/Drugs/InformationOnDrugs/ApprovedDrugs/ucm562645.htm

How to take chloroquine phosphate

Stephen:


Sorry, I need your help again.


Should the patient take the chloroquine phosphate with TMZ just at the beginning 5 days of TMZ cycle? or take it at 28 days - the whole TMZ cycle?


Do you have ACT 001 clinical trial I report?


Best Regards
James Zhou

Question for Hydroxychloroquine sulfate

Stephen:


It is hard for us to buy chloroquine phosphate to treat my mother's GBM. Can we use hydroxychloroquine sulfate to replace it?


Some forums say both these two medicines can be used to treat GBM, but Ben William's book says hydroxychloroquine sulfate can't be used to treat GBM. We are not sure who is right.




Best Regards
James Zhou

suspected progression/leptomeningial disease

Dear all,
Just after NED MRI end of March, the third dendritic vaccine/Keytruda/vesanoid my son was hospitalized and the MRI shows  possible progression. Is it at all possible this could be pseudo progression? We know how hopeless leptomeningial disease is, but does anyone know of any trials? Any ideas are greatly appreciated.

Can't comment to any posts

I am not sure how this "blogger" works, but I cannot comment to any posts made by anyone. I have tried a few times, it says something like "posting" and then nothing, my comments get lost. Any help?


Comment: I can enter comments, use the Google Id, says "publishing", but when it refreshes the page the comment is not there.

Cleaning up gadolinium

For those that do literally dozens of MRIs with contrast I have been reading some articles on the accumulation of gadolinium in the body. This is a very good link explaining the risks and the various brands used during MRIs:

https://gadoliniumtoxicity.com/background/gbcas/

I called up today to inquire about the substance I have been receiving and I was met with some resistance in typical British "you are the patient, no need to know" attitude. But eventually I was told that the last two MRIs were with Gadavist which is one of the safest.

However I have also been reading on whether it is possible to eliminate it from our systems because if you have read the link above, well it accumulates.

There is a very good all round introduction on the subject here:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3654245/

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I would like to ask has anyone here gone on a chelation attempt ? What were your experiences?



PS: I am editing my original post as I cannot reply to any comments:

This is what I have found out so far.

https://www.inspire.com/groups/american-brain-tumor-association/discussion/gadolinium-2/

A case for using tamoxifen to prevent malignancy progression?

https://www.jci.org/articles/view/86443

Ben Williams used high dose tamoxifen. He also ate high quantities of soy products which are estrogenic, I wonder how these interacted?

Microflora influences immunotherapy efficacy

This is the second paper I've read on the topic. I can't find the first one but it indicated that microbes related to sugar/refined carb consumption were higher in non-responders versuses those with more diverse microbiota resulting from a diet of healthier foods, lots of veggies.

So it seems what we eat can influence our cancer outcomes after all. A great reason to change your diet as early as possible as it may significantly improve outcomes, if immunotherapy is the route you wind up on. My guess is chemo and radiation aren't influenced by diet because of the way they work but newer treatments might very well be.

There are a few great books I know of on how to create a diverse microbiome. I can't quite recall them right now but I'll look them up later, if interested. You can influence your microbiota over a very short period.


http://www.cell.com/cell/abstract/S0092-8674(15)01633-5

Maria

ONC201 expanded access for H3 K27M mutant gliomas

This is rather big news for H3 K27M mutant gliomas (including a high percentage of DIPG).

Expanded Access Program for ONC201 to Treat Recurrent Histone H3 Mutant Glioma (click here)

In a phase two trial of ONC201 for recurrent GBM, a 22 year old female with secondary H3 K27M mutant GBM achieved a partial response to ONC201, which has been sustained for over 6 months. One of her two tumors regressed by 85% and the other tumor regressed by 75% after 8 and 11 months of therapy.

A phase 2 study of the first imipridone ONC201, a selective DRD2 antagonist for oncology, administered every three weeks in recurrent glioblastoma  (click here)

Note that the H3 K27M mutation (also known as H3F3A K27M) is most common in brainstem gliomas of young children and young adults, including diffuse intrinsic pontine glioma (DIPG).  This treatment could turn out to be a breakthrough, as there is currently no known effective treatment for this tumor type.

Quality informative cancer forums

Hi all,

As I'm sure many of you do, I skim this forum (by far the most informative and elite in my opinion) as well as cancercompass.com and a few others for daily updates of any kind in the world of GBM treatments.

Just want to check if anyone else has found other forums or go to websites that are worth adding to the daily check list.

thank you

Car T cells

Dear all,
Does anyone know of any place ( in the world!) that is doing car t cells on a compassionate basis? My son is under 18 still, so it doesnt seem possible for him to get anything at the City of Hope trial. Thanks!